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22-10-'15 DJ Persuasion @ 93 - 94 Hardcore Mix Berceuse Heroique

Oldschool Jungle Breakbeat

Toegevoegd door: pointlesspoint @ 22-10-2019 20:19
Laatst gewijzigd door: pointlesspoint @ 23-10-2019 09:59

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Tracklist

1.	Noise Factory - I Bring You The Future
2.	Wots My Code - Dubplate
3.	Bukem & The Peshay - 19.5
4.	D-Force - Ruff!!!
5.	ID (Studio Pressure - ???)
6.	Tango & Ratty - Tales From The Darkside
7.	Tango & Ratty - Final Conflict
8.	ID (ID)
9.	Dillinja & Clarky - Dark Science
10.	Eze-G - Worlds Of Confusion
11.	Electronic Experienced - IQ
12.	Q Project - Champion Sound
13.	ID (ID)
14.	Steve C & Monita - The Razors Edge [Skeleton Recordings 1994]
15.	Flynn & Flora - Jungle Love
16.	Dillinja - Sovereign Melody
17.	ID (ID)
18.	ID (ID)
19.	Simon Bassline Smith - Mind Over Matter
20.	ID (Ltj Bukem - ???)

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hardcorerepublic [Moderator] - on 22-10-2019
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No 'Hardcore' here

pointlesspoint - on 22-10-2019
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It was called hardcore back in the day. 'Breakbeat Hardcore' called years later, for promotional purposes or to define the genre better.

Gewijzigd door pointlesspoint op 22-10-2019 20:44

pointlesspoint - on 22-10-2019
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Hardcore jungle is another thing, hehe.

pointlesspoint - on 22-10-2019
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Check Discogs for this record played for instance:

https://www.discogs.com/D-Force-Original-Bad-Boy-EP/release/29645

Style: Breakbeat, hardcore

Not to nitpick this style naming till infinity but this 91-92-93 'hardcore' thing was/is too big and too defined stylistically to name it oldschool jungle.
Call it oldskool rave hardcore, breakbeat hardcore, it was named hardcore anyway.
Infact what came after was 'happy hardcore', 'jungle', 'drum 'n bass (jungle's offspring)' etc.
There are jungle records in this mix too btw.

Gewijzigd door pointlesspoint op 22-10-2019 20:59

pointlesspoint - on 22-10-2019
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I didn't know Ishkur had an updated version of his guide https://music.ishkur.com/ , the (technical) divisions in hardcore in the beginning of the 90's are made clear and the origins are nicely exemplified with samples. Not to be a dick here but i already exposed my opinion on the genre/style naming process in the shoutbox i will not repeat it here for the moment.

Het is nog altijd iets gemakkelijker om in het Nederlands verder te praten.

Gewijzigd door pointlesspoint op 22-10-2019 21:09

pointlesspoint - on 22-10-2019
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Ik ga uit van Discogs, Ishkur's guide, Blogtotheoldskool, wat de mc's schreeuwen, de track titels (Dark side, Junglist Massive), de artiestennamen (Hackney Hardcore) en nog wat andere bronnen voor deze stijl en aanverwanten. De mix noemt 93-94 hardcore mix... .

Discogs: breakbeat, hardcore
Ishkur: oldskool rave hardcore
Blogtotheoldskool: hardcore, breakbeat hardcore
Het gaat dus altijd over 'rave', 'hardcore' of 'breakbeat hardcore' (heden ten dage gemeengoed). en zo werd het 100% zeker 'hardcore' genoemd toendertijd dus.

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Het interesseert wellicht niemand maar ik zal een topic maken?

Gewijzigd door pointlesspoint op 22-10-2019 21:35

hardcorerepublic [Moderator] - on 22-10-2019
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The 'Hardcore' tag is not used for this genre on lsdb. It's that simple. But you're still right!

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