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Hardtrance

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Tracklist

01. Mohikana - I Will Find You(Bratti's Acappella)
02. Dj Tiesto - Lethal Industry(Svenson And Gielen Remix)
03. Jordan & Baker - Explode(Original Mix)
04. Manuel Es - Nord Jet(Energy Mix)
05. Mauro Picotto - Proximus Medley With Ademius(BA Mix)
06. Technoid - Rotation(Schwarzende Remix)
07. Cosmic Gate - Ultra Curve
08. Delerium Ft. Sarah McLachlan - Silence(Tiesto Mix)
09. Cosmic Gate - Melt To The Ocean(Midnight Remix)
10. Zenith - Energy 2002(Arena Vrs)
11. Yakooza - French Kiss(Scot Project Remix)



Pithune -
Shadow Interaction
early is based on a timeline, not elements.
Loony -
Big Dawg
On 21-07-2009 12:50:18, Pithune wrote:

early is based on a timeline, not elements.


Well if thats the case there's loads of miss labeled sets on here & you have to take out all the 2003-2005 sets & put them in with the Hardstyle genre.

But I wouldn't say its like that.

There is clearly 2 different styles of Hardstyle.

1 From the start till about 2005 you have the Early Style, the Techno House sounds with the reverse bass.

&

2 From 2005 onwards you have the New Style, much harder kicks & the introduction of big melody choruses.

But regardless of whether you think its a timeline or style.

1 thing remains, the tracks still need to be Hardstyle for them to be Early Hardstyle not Hard Trance not Hard House but actual Hardstyle.
Pithune -
Shadow Interaction
1 From the start till about 2005 you have the Early Style, the Techno House sounds with the reverse bass.


techno house sounds?  :')

i think you listened the wrong music if you think that's what early hardstyle is about
Loony -
Big Dawg
On 21-07-2009 15:27:11, Pithune wrote:

[...]

techno house sounds?  :')

i think you listened the wrong music if you think that's what early hardstyle is about


Well since Hardstyle tracks had both Hard Bass Techno & Hard House Elements in them, Yes Hard Techno & Hard House sounds.

Why do you think producers from Italy & Holland were creating these tracks first?

Because back then the Italians were in to Hard Bass Techno (Techno with the reverse bass) & Holland were into Hard House (among others). Both of these styles came together to make Hardstyle.
Opperhoofd -
On 21-07-2009 13:11:21, Loony wrote:

From 2005 onwards you have the New Style, much harder kicks & the introduction of big melody choruses.



You're wrong.

The Masochist' style was already called New Style. So New Style is Hardcore not Hardstyle.  :W
Pithune -
Shadow Interaction
On 21-07-2009 16:01:21, Loony wrote:

[...]

Well since Hardstyle tracks had both Hard Bass Techno & Hard House Elements in them, Yes Hard Techno & Hard House sounds.

Why do you think producers from Italy & Holland were creating these tracks first?

Because back then the Italians were in to Hard Bass Techno (Techno with the reverse bass) & Holland were into Hard House (among others). Both of these styles came together to make Hardstyle.


but you wrote

On 21-07-2009 13:11:21, Loony wrote:
till about 2005


in 2004/2005 i didnt hear a single track which sounded hardhousy, bro

On 21-07-2009 16:04:34, Opperhoofd wrote:

[...]

You're wrong.

The Masochist' style was already called New Style. So New Style is Hardcore not Hardstyle.  :W


you are wrong too

Newstyle is another word of Chicago Hardhouse, which started in the 90's with artists as DJ Trajic, Mark V & Poogie Bear, etc.
Then flew over to holland, where the hardcore dj's picked it up (best known was Da Tekno Warriors // Paul & Neophyte)
Opperhoofd -
Voor mij is dit gewoon Early Hardstyle al zetten jullie er Minimal of Jumpstyle bij.  :thumbsup2:
Morango -
What is real?
On 21-07-2009 16:04:34, Opperhoofd wrote:

[...]

You're wrong.

The Masochist' style was already called New Style. So New Style is Hardcore not Hardstyle.  :W


that's right Oppy  :thumbsup:

in Thunderdome XX (1998) ...it was the born of New Style, hard kick but slower hardcore @ 140 B.P.M.  :arrow:


1-04 C.J.D. Cocaine (3:38)
1-06 DJ Sim Simbiosis (3:48)
1-07 Dark Raver* & Vince* Intelligent Hardcore II (4:25)
1-08 Masochist, The The Masochist (3:40)
2-04 Masochist, The No New Style? (3:47)
...more


http://www.discogs.com/Various-Thunderdome-XX/release/52214

later came Hardstyle, a variation of this new style Hardcore  8-)
Pithune -
Shadow Interaction
what bullshit  :clown:

just because of a title, it doesnt mean they invented a new style

and the hardstyle was not coming out of hardcore either
Opperhoofd -
On 21-07-2009 16:11:41, Morango wrote:

[...]

that's right Oppy  :thumbsup:

in Thunderdome XX (1998) ...it was the born of New Style, hard kick but slower hardcore @ 140 B.P.M.  :arrow:


1-04 C.J.D. Cocaine (3:38)
1-06 DJ Sim Simbiosis (3:48)
1-07 Dark Raver* & Vince* Intelligent Hardcore II (4:25)
1-08 Masochist, The The Masochist (3:40)
2-04 Masochist, The No New Style? (3:47)
...more


http://www.discogs.com/Various-Thunderdome-XX/release/52214

later came Hardstyle, a variation of this new style Hardcore  8-)


Don't forget this one!

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Newskool-Out-With-The-Old-In-With-The-New/release/166858

 :worship:
Loony -
Big Dawg
On 21-07-2009 16:04:34, Opperhoofd wrote:

[...]

You're wrong.

The Masochist' style was already called New Style. So New Style is Hardcore not Hardstyle.  :W


You clearly missed what I was saying

On 21-07-2009 13:11:21, Loony wrote:
There is clearly 2 different styles of Hardstyle.

1 From the start till about 2005 you have the Early Style, the Techno House sounds with the reverse bass.

&

2 From 2005 onwards you have the New Style, much harder kicks & the introduction of big melody choruses.


The 2 different types of Hardstyle is what I was talking about, The Early Style of Hardstyle & The New Style of Hardstyle.

I wasn't meaning its an official name I just sayed that to describe that there is 2 different types of Hardstyle.
Jatoch -
En ja hoor de eindeloze discussie gaat verder.
Iedereen weet het beter.
restyler82 -
http://www.youtube.com/user/rest
Tony Anatone!  :bomb: