Feedback / new lsdb derivative

On 25-04-2010 23:28:11, m4a1 wrote:

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I've told you five times. Acting professional is not the same as being a professional, you won't come in the pro list. Demanding you should be in the pro list is btw very unprofessional

If I was demanding it i'd say tell that here and on msn (bert) long ago.
I only make a general statement on where the line between amateurs and pro's is put.
Since I was named in the starterspost, I definately feel spoken-to to bump in.

But I guess what people see as "pro" are people that made their job out of music (famous, made it to the top, professionals)

On 25-04-2010 23:40:19, Pithune wrote:

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If I was demanding it i'd say tell that here and on msn (bert) long ago.
I only make a general statement on where the line between amateurs and pro's is put.
Since I was named in the starterspost, I definately feel spoken-to to bump in.

Well for starters you can't say that you are speaking the truth. It's just your view on the subject, I respect that but I don't agree, and with me I think 90% of LSDB.
Yes, I named you in the starterspost, but you are the least of the problem. Heatzone for example is way more professional then you, however, I still think they should go with amateur, because they can't make a living out of it. Eventhough I like their shit, I'm just being objective.

On 25-04-2010 23:45:32, m4a1 wrote:

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Well for starters you can't say that you are speaking the truth. It's just your view on the subject, I respect that but I don't agree, and with me I think 90% of LSDB.
Yes, I named you in the starterspost, but you are the least of the problem. Heatzone for example is way more professional then you, however, I still think they should go with amateur, because they can't make a living out of it. Eventhough I like their shit, I'm just being objective.

Alright, so how do you intend to figure out who makes a living out of it and who doesnt?

examples like Technoboy are certain, while Digital Punk f.e. are smaller names
Yet, they both play on bigstar events
too much 'grey area' imo

On 25-04-2010 23:40:19, Pithune wrote:
I only make a general statement on where the line between amateurs and pro's is put.

But I guess what people see as "pro" are people that made their job out of music (famous, made it to the top, professionals)

There you have your answer... and if I'm not mistaken that's exactly what m4a1 said from the beginning.

On 25-04-2010 23:48:51, Pithune wrote:

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Alright, so how do you intend to figure out who makes a living out of it and who doesnt?

examples like Technoboy are certain, while Digital Punk f.e. are smaller names
Yet, they both play on bigstar events
too much 'grey area' imo

Digital Punk is no problem, he's pro.

On 25-04-2010 23:48:51, Pithune wrote:
too much 'grey area' imo

I do agree and I don't have a solution right now.

Pithune, you see pro as an attitude. There lies the problem.
We're talking about professionality here as dj'ing for a living. Not about attitude.

I see pro as an attitude?

Where did that came up from?

On 25-04-2010 23:51:17, mstx wrote:

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I do agree and I don't have a solution right now.

I also agree, however, with a lot of amateursets cleared from pro, it's much better for me:D

On 25-04-2010 23:51:17, mstx wrote:

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I do agree and I don't have a solution right now.

I also agree, however, with a lot of amateursets cleared from pro, it's much better for me:D

On 25-04-2010 23:52:27, Pithune wrote:

I see pro as an attitude?

Where did that came up from?

als een houding

Simple solution:

10 bookings = prof
<10 = amateur

On 25-04-2010 23:58:06, Knomo wrote:

Simple solution:

10 bookings = prof
<10 = amateur

No

If some1 puts 400 euro in your hands to play your bloody half hour set
Your considered proffesional to me

On 26-04-2010 00:00:53, m4a1 wrote:

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No

Why not? It's an easy standard.. and it takes away all the 'grey' area

On 26-04-2010 00:02:13, Knomo wrote:

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Why not? It's an easy standard.. and it takes away all the 'grey' area

Because someone who is a DJ for ten years and has had one booking per year is NOT an professional. Grey area stays, but it doesn't matter.

Amateur Lsdb
Grey LSDB
Pro LSDB

FIXED

On 25-04-2010 23:58:06, Knomo wrote:

Simple solution:

10 bookings = prof
<10 = amateur

dan hebk er nog 4 te gaan

On 26-04-2010 00:07:55, Pithune wrote:

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dan hebk er nog 4 te gaan

En wij nog 3 jaar om iets te bedenken waarom jij niet in de lijst mag

On 26-04-2010 00:07:55, Pithune wrote:

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dan hebk er nog 4 te gaan

Gast, je bent gewoon geen professional (op dit moment), al heb je tien boekingen gedaan of niet. Klaar.