09-01-'12 Tommyknocker @ Hardcore Italia Podcast #23

Micron? + ... Tommyknocker should put more darkcore and less mainstream hardcore, it's better

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On 09-01-2012 17:02:31, javi_centralero wrote:

Micron? + ... Tommyknocker should put more darkcore and less mainstream hardcore, it's better

2 things, no 3..

1) http://www.discogs.com/artist/Micron

2) Tommyknocker will never play Darkcore.

3) Tommyknocker will always play Mainstream, he is known for that.

Micron is not Darkcore??, Manu Le Malin use many tracks of this producer. Micron used more darkcore sound before, now he make more industrial, but with some sound typics in Darkcore. The first tracks that Tommyknocker made in his beginning, had many influences of Darkcore (kicks, sounds, etc...). Endymion is equal, when he produced as Darkcore Exploradors . Many producers that in the present do Hardcore, in the past made Darkcore, but in the present, in the most part, they use only some darkcore sound in his tracks.

You think that only exist the Darkcore of Ybrid jajaja, there are many producers that use darkcore sound in his hardcore tracks, is not something new. Unexist, for example, used many darkcore sound in his tracks, in his begining firstly, less in the present, that his tracks are more less hard that before.

Gewijzigd door javi_centralero op 09-01-2012 22:56

On 09-01-2012 22:51:04, javi_centralero wrote:

Micron is not Darkcore??, Manu Le Malin use many tracks of this producer. The first tracks that Tommyknocker made in his beginning, had many influences of Darkcore (kicks, sounds, etc...).

You think that only exist the Darkcore of Ybrid jajaja, there are many producers that use darkcore sound in his hardcore tracks, is not something new. Unexist, for example, used many darkcore sound in his tracks, in his begining firstyl, less in the present, that his tracks are more less hard that before.

I never said that Micron is Darkcore or not.. I only posted his Discogs artist page
You're right, Tommyknocker used darker kicks etc in the past time, like Mad Dog, Art of Fighters, Angerfist etc etc.. but they weren't Darkcore The Hardcore (mainstream) from 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 was darker & harder, yes. But still not Darkcore.. Hardcore evolves, it just has become softer & with more melodys. That's all ! the Hardcore of the past was not Darkcore because it's harder & darker.. Wake up damn & if you wanna some Darkcore, go download Darkcore sets and stop to post your bullshit on Hardcore sets.
Oh and it's not because there are some dark kicks, breaks or whatever in a track that the track is Darkcore.

Stop being silly and learn from what we tell & told you

Gewijzigd door greg4850 op 09-01-2012 23:02

Then, why did you put the discogs link of Micon??, yo only said that he produce darkcore, that Manu Le Malin use tracks of this producer. Who did the discogs page of Micron. Because I think that he don't know the difference of darkcore and industrial or other styles that appear there.

Only exist the Darkcore of Ybrid, this is your opinion? hahaha, because you only say that she, she and she!!... the Unexist of 3 o 4 years ago, produced and mixed darkcore very hard. In the present, he produce and use some darkcore tracks very more soft that before + some mainstream tracks + some industrial tracks as Tymon tracks.

Then, you say that DARKCORE EXPLORATORS, that were Endymion in the end of 90s and first years of last decade, they didn't produce darkcore also??, also was hardcore more dark and hard? hahahaa. To your information, commercial hardcore is mainstream, the dark hardcore (dark tunes and kicks) is darkcore; hardcore with high bpm and with some own things, is speedcore or terror, the different is in this, own things that are the differences of Terror or Speedcore.

Your problem is that you think that you know everything, when you are very young and not many years listening hardcore. You could learn more in the future, but you don't want. Excesive pride is not good, A council

On 09-01-2012 23:15:06, javi_centralero wrote:

Your problem is that you think that you know everything, when you are very young and not many years listening hardcore. You could learn more in the future, but you don't want. Excesive pride is not good, A council

Whahahahaha
You just made my day man

On 09-01-2012 23:15:06, javi_centralero wrote:

Then, why did you put the discogs link of Micon??, yo only said that he produce darkcore, that Manu Le Malin use tracks of this producer. Who did the discogs page of Micron. Because I think that he don't know the difference of darkcore and industrial or other styles that appear there.

You're just saying that Disogs is a page full of lies etc ? Common man, you can't be more stupid.

On 09-01-2012 23:15:06, javi_centralero wrote:

Only exist the Darkcore of Ybrid, this is your opinion? hahaha, because you only say that she, she and she!!... the Unexist of 3 o 4 years ago, produced and mixed darkcore very hard. In the present, he produce and use some darkcore tracks very more soft that before + some mainstream tracks + some industrial tracks as Tymon tracks.

Did I spoke about Ybrid today ? No ! Ybrid was just an example for you to show what "real" Darkcore is.

On 09-01-2012 23:15:06, javi_centralero wrote:

Then, you say that DARKCORE EXPLORATORS, that were Endymion in the end of 90s and first years of last decade, they didn't produce darkcore also??, also was hardcore more dark and hard? hahahaa. To your information, commercial hardcore is mainstream, the dark hardcore (dark tunes and kicks) is darkcore; hardcore with high bpm and with some own things, is speedcore or terror, the different is in this, own things that are the differences of Terror or Speedcore.

Did I spoke about Endymion ? No ! I know that Endymion produced Darkcore in the end of the 90's.
Hardcore with high BPM is not only Terror or Speedcore, it can be Frenchcore too, or even Splittercore. I already told you, dark ambient in a track doesn't mean Darkcore. "Real" Darkcore is like the "real" Industrial.. It's slower than Hardcore. But yeah, there is some faster Darkcore or Industrial. But Tommyknocker never had Darkcore productions etc.

Gewijzigd door greg4850 op 09-01-2012 23:36

On 09-01-2012 23:16:52, greg4850 wrote:

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Whahahahaha
You just made my day man

It is what it seems, because you do not know that Endymion produced hardcore in the end of 90's, under the pseudonym or aka of Darkcore Exploradors. Wounded your pride?, hahaha!, I told you so, your problem is that you don't listen, you thinks that know everything, when you are a young boy that only know the recent years and talk without know. You don't know the real darkcore, only recent years, but this you think that only Ybrid make darkcore. BIG MISTAKE, mate

On 09-01-2012 23:28:34, javi_centralero wrote:

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It is what it seems, because you do not know that Endymion produced hardcore in the end of 90's, under the pseudonym or aka of Darkcore Exploradors. Wounded your pride?, hahaha!, I told you so, your problem is that you don't listen, you thinks that know everything, when you are a young boy that only know the recent years and talk without know. You don't know the real darkcore, only recent years, but this you think that only Ybrid make darkcore. BIG MISTAKE, mate

Yeah yeah whatever man.. Go play in the sandbox
Did I said that I didn't know that Endymion produced in the end of the 90's or something like that ? No !
My knowledge is not the biggest but I know what I'm saying and what's the difference between genres

This night, you have learnt that Endymion produced Darkcore in the past. You always say that actual producers of mainstream hardcore, in the past only made hardcore more hard and dark, but no darkcore hehehe. Unexist and Tieum are equal --> Unexist made darkcore very serious in the past and today he made darkcore very near to mainstream hardcore, and french man (Tieum) made in the past some industrial and also darkcore tracks, but in the present he make tracks more soft, mainstream with some darkcore & industrial sounds. Tommyknocker is other case, he made some darkcore tracks in his beginning, and equal with other DJ's. NegativeA also have made many industrial hardcore tracks. In the present, his industrial is very near to mainstream hardcore. Is 'commercial industrial' into Industrial Hardcore. D-Passion is other case, etc...

On 10-01-2012 00:03:45, javi_centralero wrote:

This night, you have learnt that Endymion produced Darkcore in the past.

I knew it damn..

On 09-01-2012 23:24:38, greg4850 wrote:

I know that Endymion produced Darkcore in the end of the 90's.

javi I suggest you just take a cup of shut the fuck up because you're embarassing yourself even more than you already have the last couple of months.

On 10-01-2012 00:19:35, Legolas wrote:

javi I suggest you just take a cup of shut the fuck up because you're embarassing yourself even more than you already have the last couple of months.

You should talk with you mate (Greg) and tell him that he don't know everything, because he, in the last months, say a million the times the same: 'it's not darkcore...' blablabla... when he don't know things that i said. You only defend my first opinion because your friend say me that no. And you should also know the things before that talk, because you should be just, no defend to Greg because he can be your friend, because he had a mistakes. A better moderation, please

I love your Spanglish Javi

You're also telling the same old shit for months now.. We just wanna learn you some things.. & you're the guy here who thinks he knows all

For fucks sake, Javi....

I only say a reality. You are very stubborn with this one in the last months, when you can ask to many producers that know more that you. Tieum for example, you told me that he never made darkcore or industrial tracks, only hardcore more hard & dark, hahahaaha!!, Negative A in the equal way? xd, you also told the same. You should listen, or ask to djs as Day-Mar, that you told: 'she never made or used darkcore tracks'... you don't know about you talk, it's the reality. STUBBORN!!

Gewijzigd door javi_centralero op 10-01-2012 00:40

Who fucking cares which dj uses what tracks in their sets? If you like it it, you like it, fuck the genre wanking.
Give it a fucking rest!

Here we go again.